Comments on: Pros and Cons of Wordpress Posting http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/ Mai Tais and Blinky Lights, Ahoy! Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:20:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: iLkerjaN http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-34125 iLkerjaN Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:52:28 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-34125 special thanks! special thanks!

]]> By: Adam Rosi-Kessel http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3657 Adam Rosi-Kessel Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:54:38 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3657 There is a plugin out there that "AJAX-ifies" WordPress. I haven't tried it but it looks cool. Not sure how much difference it makes on the backend, though. I've also been trying to find (for <a href="http://rachele.rosi-kessel.org" rel="nofollow">Rachele</a>) a good linux client-side posting application. Everything I've found so far is fine for posting and editing text, but requires you to manually upload and hyperlink images, which is not the epitome of convenience. Really this problem should already have been solved in a standard XMLRPC way. There is a plugin out there that “AJAX-ifies” WordPress. I haven’t tried it but it looks cool. Not sure how much difference it makes on the backend, though. I’ve also been trying to find (for Rachele) a good linux client-side posting application. Everything I’ve found so far is fine for posting and editing text, but requires you to manually upload and hyperlink images, which is not the epitome of convenience. Really this problem should already have been solved in a standard XMLRPC way.

]]> By: rajbot http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3642 rajbot Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:49:00 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3642 Yay! Now I get it :) <br> Speaking of search engines.. how come a WP search box isn't exposed on the TR front page? Yay! Now I get it :)

Speaking of search engines.. how come a WP search box isn’t exposed on the TR front page?

]]> By: may http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3641 may Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:06:18 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3641 hmm...that's true. i guess the supermarket analogy isn't a good one. i think categories then are more broadly understood buckets that you can dump things into and tags are specific labels that you can apply. I guess I also associate tagging with a more ajaxy-predictive interface.<br> tags seem to be really useful for images (as with flickr) but not so much with text entries. if you have a good search engine, they don't really seem necessary. a while back i used to keep <a href="http://www.filterfine.com/links" rel="nofollow">my bookmarks organized by categories</a>...and then, <a href="http://del.icio.us/maywoo" rel="nofollow">i switched over to del.icio.us and started using tags</a>. i find that my really long list of tags and even the tag map on del.icio.us is less useful in helping me find stuff than the categories. hmm…that’s true. i guess the supermarket analogy isn’t a good one. i think categories then are more broadly understood buckets that you can dump things into and tags are specific labels that you can apply. I guess I also associate tagging with a more ajaxy-predictive interface.

tags seem to be really useful for images (as with flickr) but not so much with text entries. if you have a good search engine, they don’t really seem necessary. a while back i used to keep my bookmarks organized by categories…and then, i switched over to del.icio.us and started using tags. i find that my really long list of tags and even the tag map on del.icio.us is less useful in helping me find stuff than the categories.

]]> By: rajbot http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3629 rajbot Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:07:19 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3629 Categories, as May describes them, sound like non-overlapping tags. Since the WP developers allow a post to have multiple categories, I don't see the difference between WP categories and tags. Categories, as May describes them, sound like non-overlapping tags. Since the WP developers allow a post to have multiple categories, I don’t see the difference between WP categories and tags.

]]> By: peliom http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3628 peliom Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:14:23 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3628 Cool! Reminders about categories are a good thing. I agree that we're not using categories the way the wordpress developers probably envisioned. But that's because categories suck. It's all about tags! :-) Cool! Reminders about categories are a good thing.

I agree that we’re not using categories the way the wordpress developers probably envisioned. But that’s because categories suck. It’s all about tags! :-)

]]> By: rajbot http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3623 rajbot Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:05:34 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3623 OK, I made WordPress pop up a confirmation warning if 'Uncategorized' is still selected when you try to publish or save a post. OK, I made WordPress pop up a confirmation warning if ‘Uncategorized’ is still selected when you try to publish or save a post.

]]> By: rajbot http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3618 rajbot Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:55:38 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3618 What if we just changed the WordPress code to automatically un-select 'Uncategorized' if any other categories are selected? What if we just changed the WordPress code to automatically un-select ‘Uncategorized’ if any other categories are selected?

]]> By: may http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3614 may Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:14:21 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3614 oh and i agree, it would be nice if we could delete the "uncategorized" category...you can change the default category that something gets posted to but that's not a whole lot better. oh and i agree, it would be nice if we could delete the “uncategorized” category…you can change the default category that something gets posted to but that’s not a whole lot better.

]]> By: may http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/comment-page-1/#comment-3613 may Sun, 01 Oct 2006 06:50:04 +0000 http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2006/09/30/pros-and-cons-of-wordpress-posting/#comment-3613 there's actually a rich text editor with Wordpress that you can use if you don't want to handcode your HTML (You turn it on by going to Options --> Writing and then checking "Users should use the visual rich editor by default" where it says "Formatting." I'd turned it off for Raj last week so that he could install a plugin that would render his code samples properly. (yep the code workaround is a big pain) I think you can turn the rich text editor back on if you aren't doing a post with code samples. <br> also, wrt to "tags," they're actually supposed to be"categories" in wordpress (so we're not really using their system for what it was designed for). It's really subtle but the systems for using categories vs. taags are designed a little different based on what people are supposed to use them for. <br> Categories are meant to be like the big signs at the supermarket (i.e. Dairy, Produce etc). They're the big buckets that don't change. Tags are keywords that help you remember what something was about and can be highly specific - they're like the labels on specific items. I think you can install a plug in (ie <a href="http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2005/10/23/the-ultimate-tag-warrior-wordpress-plugin/" rel="nofollow">Ultimate Tag Warrier</a>) that makes it a lot easier to use a tagging system (a la de.li.cious or flickr) - there'd be no default "uncategorized" tag in that case. there’s actually a rich text editor with Wordpress that you can use if you don’t want to handcode your HTML (You turn it on by going to Options –> Writing and then checking “Users should use the visual rich editor by default” where it says “Formatting.” I’d turned it off for Raj last week so that he could install a plugin that would render his code samples properly. (yep the code workaround is a big pain) I think you can turn the rich text editor back on if you aren’t doing a post with code samples.

also, wrt to “tags,” they’re actually supposed to be”categories” in wordpress (so we’re not really using their system for what it was designed for). It’s really subtle but the systems for using categories vs. taags are designed a little different based on what people are supposed to use them for.

Categories are meant to be like the big signs at the supermarket (i.e. Dairy, Produce etc). They’re the big buckets that don’t change. Tags are keywords that help you remember what something was about and can be highly specific – they’re like the labels on specific items.

I think you can install a plug in (ie Ultimate Tag Warrier) that makes it a lot easier to use a tagging system (a la de.li.cious or flickr) – there’d be no default “uncategorized” tag in that case.

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